• helenslunch@feddit.nl
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    4 months ago

    Nobody wants new features. If they wanted new features they would have gone to W11 already. They just want less bullshit.

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    4 months ago

    Please don’t. Just keep providing security updates for an extended time and don’t make Win 10 worse with these ‘features’ that are keeping people away from Win 11.

      • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        Some problems:

        • Stability. For me, Linux on a VM (where I’m using it for development and getting myself familiarized with it) was a stability nightmare. Everything could go wrong after an update (I’m looking at you, Ubuntu 24.04), or even a restart, with no easy way to recover.
        • Lack of an easy recovery. On Windows, you can recover your OS from a faultry update easily. If a bit more things have gone wrong, just use the installer, to resurrect your own installation. On Linux, you’re on your own, and while sometimes it’s an easy fix, other times you’re better off reinstalling your OS, leading you to have to restart a lot of other things, which leads to lost time that could have spent better with doing something productive. I’ve wasted hours on recovering data from a Ubuntu 24.04 installation which decided to no longer work in GUI mode, and it ultimately ruined my sleep schedule.
        • A lot of settings are hidden deep within config files, which need manual editing, and even worse, googling, which on today’s internet, will likely lead you to an AI generated site filled with garbage. I managed to kill the Linux installation on my Raspberry Pi, which lead me to the previous point of having to reinstall, then having to google even more settings because Raspberry Pi OS had the great idea in the newer versions to “make setup easier”, thus tieing your location settings and your keyboard layout, so I had a Hungarian layout that I had to change, as it’s horrible to use for software development (a lot of commonly used characters are on the Alt Gr layer, and there’s only one Alt Gr key, the other Alt is a dedicated menu key - thanks IBM!).
        • Production software and drivers. While Wine is fine for a lot of games, but try to use software with way more sophisticated copy protection schemes. They’re already a pain to use on Windows with the original keys and such, now imagine them on a Windows emulator. Good luck with trying to find VST plugins, which copy protection can be 100% removed!

        I’m not a good UX designer, but my first two rules for anything GUI related are:

        1. If it can be done by a single button press, it should be a single button press on the GUI.
        2. If it can be an easy configuration, it should be an easy configuration on the GUI.

        Linux, alongside with many other projects in the FOSS community, regularly fail both of these, in favor of scripts, which are fine, but have their own issues. Your average user’s average usecase does not involve “very repetitive tasks that are just perfect for some shell scripts”.

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          Ubuntu is bad, that’s why you are having stability issues. Stop using it.

          Also it’s dead easy to recover a Linux installation that has snapshots. Just boot the previous snapshot and go. Also could just use an immutable Linux if not breaking things is your main concern.

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            4 months ago

            Oh yeah, let’s get rid of a checks notes a common and basic feature of an OS, because it’s trendy with some programming languages to set everything to const, because people are not being taught what a debugger is and how to solve these issues with them…

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              Android and ChromeOS are also immutable, this isn’t just a trend. Stop being insufferable. You don’t have to go to using immutable OSes, using something sensible and stable with snapshotting would work just fine. Like OpenSUSE, or Fedora. Setting snapshots up on Debian I think is more work but still doable.

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                4 months ago

                I think you also want to call me a tourist, mallcore, fashiongoth, fake metal Linux user, for not wanting to join the Arch cult…😉

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          4 months ago

          From what I’ve seen, pretty much everyone from techies to the tech illiterate HATES AI Implementations. Yet corporations keep trying to shovel it down our throats. When are they going to admit no one wants this?

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    4 months ago

    Unfortunately for us, Windows 10 is stubbornly popular because we dont want the new features.

    (We also dont want a new CPU just to upgrade).

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    4 months ago

    Windows 10 isn’t popular. It’s just that windows 11 is crap in comparison. Release an OS that isn’t predicated on what’s good for ad revenue and Microsoft’s bottom line and everyone will upgrade.

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    4 months ago

    I’ve got Win 10 and it works fine. I have no reason to upgrade to Win 11. If any new ‘feature’ gets added to Win 10, I will disable it.

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    The “and more” is the worrying part. They’re telling us that some of the things they are adding are not ‘features’. So then what are they?

    Ads, probably. That’s the trend these days. More and more ads, in everything, everywhere - just really probing the limits of tolerability.

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    4 months ago

    Stubborn? Windows 11 does not support my older hardware. With no other reason to upgrade, I’m not dropping that kind of cash just for Windows 11.

    Regardless, I fully migrated to Linux last year.

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      I just dual booted Linux Mint yesterday when I was reminded of the Win 10 end of service date, and hope to keep with it as my main system.

      Linux has come a long way with compatibility since I last tried it ~10 years ago. The fact that Steam games ran perfectly without an evening of configuring settings blew my mind.

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        4 months ago

        Honestly my ability to game has what has kept me out of linux. I trialed PopOs a while ago. I will more than likely switch to it when shit starts getting super annoying.

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            4 months ago

            It’s the multi-player side that is still an issue though. The anticheat software is a pain.

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              Some multiplayer, but not all. Not that that makes it perfect, but I’ve had minimal issues with multiplayer games. I do not play popular FPS games where anti cheat software is prevalent, so that’s mostly why. I did get Ghost of Tsushima the other day, and that is not compatible for online play, but I think that’s because of Sony.

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                Personally I’ve had zero issues with multiplayer. But yeah, I’m also not playing the latest twitch shooters and whatever.

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                  I’d love to run just Linux, but I don’t want to hassle with dual boot for the couple of competitive shooters I do play.

                  It sucks because all the other games I play would run without a problem.

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    My set up comfortably plays cyberpunk at dead fancy settings, but doesn’t meet the system requirements for windows 11.

    Yeah, I’m going to rub out windows 10 as long as I can (although I dual boot Debian anyway).

    That’s why it is stubbonky popular.

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    Its not that 10 is more popular, its that 10 is less jacked up. Start jacking 10 and we’ll all go back to 7