• spyd3r@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    Hamas shouldn’t store weapons near civilian areas. They should also release the hostages and surrender.

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      2 months ago

      I don’t think you’re being downvoted because anyone disagrees with you. Of course the terrorist organization should stop terrorizing people. But your comment really comes across as apologizing for the civilian deaths.

      “You’re not wrong, you’re just an asshole.”

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        2 months ago

        You’re naive if you think no one disagrees. There’s people on here consistently cheerleading for Hamas and at every protest you see people cosplaying as Hamas. There is a lot of support for genocide, so long as it’s Jews that are the ones being murdered.

        And yeah, Hamas is using civilians as human shields. If you actually cared about Palestinian civilians you wouldn’t be calling people assholes for denouncing the actions of the real genocidal terrorists that are only getting Palestinian civilians killed with their cowardly tactics. But you don’t really care about Palestinian civilians, you only care about hating Israel.

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          Can you share some links to these posts that support Hamas? Are they generally up-voted, or down-voted? There are trolls on every platform.

          But you don’t really care about Palestinian civilians, you only care about hating Israel.

          Making these kinds of strawman, ad-hominem attacks against me makes me very hesitant to engage in any kind of serious conversation with you, but maybe that’s your intent? I am certain I haven’t said anything that would make anyone think I hate Isreal.

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            Can you share some links to these posts that support Hamas?

            That would be a waste of my time. You don’t strike me as someone that would be convinced by facts.

            I am certain I haven’t said anything that would make anyone think I hate Isreal.

            You call people assholes when they state facts about the fucked up shit Hamas does.

            This is cult behaviour… always attack never even try to defend the horrible things your side does because it’s indefensible.

            But maybe I’m wrong. Are you capable of unconditionally denouncing Hamas?

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              2 months ago

              Your entire post is a series of strawman arguments. You clearly aren’t interested in conversing in good faith, so I’m out.

              “Don’t wrestle with pigs. You both get filthy and the pig likes it.”

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                  I know I already said I’m out, but that’s the most truthful thing you’ve said in this entire conversation. Thanks for finally being somewhat honest.

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                    2 months ago

                    The truth is you can’t bring yourself to denounce Hamas. Monsters that actually commit genocide and you can’t denounce them. And you call other people assholes.

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        2 months ago

        I’m not apologizing for anything. The ‘enlightened’ leftists and college ‘protestors’ need to realize a cold hard fact. When you hide your forces among civilians and use them as human shields to protect military installations (ammo dump, command center, launchers, etc), in effect deliberately maximizing your own civilian casualties to dissuade attacks, you are not only committing a war crime, but you are forfeiting the protections of those civilians under international law, and those installations remain a valid military target in the eyes of the law.

        So by Hamas operating out of schools, mosques, refugee camps, hospitals, and other civilian areas, they are the ones responsible for those civilian deaths, because they are putting civilians in harms way.

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      Okay Genocide justifier.

      You do realize this logic is the same as if someone from a different household punches you, it gives you the moral right to shoot someone else from that same household in the head, right?

      Finally, this blind allegiance to a morally wrong actor is going to make the rest of the world treat Israelis as the world treated Apartheid South Africans. I hope you enjoy being ostracized.

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        2 months ago

        false equivalence

        [ fawls i-kwiv-uh-luhns ] Phonetic (Standard) IPA noun

        a logical fallacy in which one assumes or asserts that two things are the same or equal when, while alike in some ways, they are not sufficiently similar to be considered equivalent.