I’m sorry to anyone I gave shit to about the writing or about it being the Michael Burnham Whining Hour. Y’all were right.

Expect a name change soon.

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    Oh damn, Stamets has turned into an all-out Discovery hater. I’m sort of glad I haven’t watch the new season yet.

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      So many parts of the show are great but have been smothered by parading around Michael Burnham and trying to give her the world that she doesn’t deserve. The new season showed her to be an outright psychopath who is willing to put the needs of the many above the needs of her relationship. And that was in Episode 1. Every episode from there demonstrated how the writers of the show did not give a singular fuck about anyone or anything other than Burnham. The final scene of the series ends on something that, when you give it a second of thought, is HORRENDOUSLY FUCKED UP. Especially when we saw a glimpse of what that kind of thing would do to someone (hint, it’s really not good) and they still fucking do it anyway.

      I am so sick of Sookie Michael and her stupid fairy vagina and her unbelievably stupid name. FUCK SOOKIE Michael.

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        Fairy vagina??

        I overall liked the first two seasons of Discovery but Michael and Klingonman’s relationship took too much space. It was too much melodrama and I felt like they could’ve done something more productive.

        Tilly was probably my favourite character, but there’s a bunch of interesting ones they could’ve developed further. Did Tilly’s mushroom friend ever return?

        I’m also hella disappointed they killed Hugh only to bring him back, like that plot line wasn’t interesting at all. I’m dead tired of burying the gays.

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        Sorry bud, I had to stop at “the new season showed her” because I still want to see it for myself and form my own opinions without spoilers.

        But I’m sorry they ruined the whole thing for you since I know how much you were looking forward to the season.

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          I did not post spoilers. You could have just not responded instead of saying “Sorry, I didn’t read what you said.”

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            I wanted to tell you I was sorry about it being ruined for you. And I did read the comment up to that point!

            Edit: And now I read the whole thing since there were no spoilers. And yeah, Michael is a stupid name. I never got that.

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              Sorry. I didn’t sleep. A few things going on but this stupid fucking show has really been bugging me.

              Apparently according to the EPs, Michael was chosen because Trek has a history of switching things up. Michael has been used in the past as a womans name so they decided to use it here. Basically the skant but in name form. It’s fucking dumb.

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        Just to be clear, by Sookie, are you referring to the character on Gilmore Girls? Because if so, I’m sorry, Rory is the actual worst.

        Although, it is messed up how Sookie treated her husband.

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          Oh it’s a quote from True Blood. I’m just replacing the characters name in that with Michael.

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    Holy shit, Stamets changing their name because of the last season is probably the single most damning condemnation I could think of if

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    Is there a point at which you’d recommend no further watching? I’ve been slowly going through it.

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      Season 4. Characters are learning and growing and carrying on. Ends with a big event and a satisfying open ended narrative conclusion.

      Season 5 undoes every ounce of character development and abandons every single character that isn’t Michael Burnham. Throughout the season various characters keep dropping with no explanation, slowly whittling down. The tacked on epilogue for the entire series does not have a single line from any Discovery-crew main character that isn’t Burnham. She gets 20 minutes of bullshit about her that ends with the most wildly unsatisfying narrative tie-in to something else. A tie-in that undoes everything that happened since Season 3 and leaves a future that is objectively depressing and hopeless. And that’s not even talking about the fact that Burnham does something in the first episode of the Season that is worse than mutiny. What she does in that first episode is so overwhelmingly fucked up that it proves she didn’t learn a singular fucking thing.

      It is fucking mindboggling to me that the final season was greenlit.

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        Wow… I was just starting to get excited for this show having only seen season 1 when it aired. I’ll be following this advice

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          So was I. I was so excited and gung ho about this final season. I’ve never been so depressed and demoralized by a TV show before.

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        Sorry to hear about your disappointment in the new season. I’m still working my way through DS9 and hope to later start watching ENT … so I’ve got a lot of decent content to go through.

        I was considering watching DISCO but I was sort of thinking what you said would happen would happen and it looks like it did. I’ll get to it done day just because it’s Star Trek but not any time soon.

        I was worried that one of the developments of modern TV series especially on the digital platforms is to not build long running series because it doesn’t make them money. Audiences in general are lazy so the average viewer just wants to watch something they have no history to, know no background and is something that is just completely new. A long running series with five, six or more seasons is too much for someone who is getting into it from the start. Most new audience members will skip the long running series or ones with big fan bases and go watch some short running series they can watch from the start and end quickly.

        I’m thinking this is what they did and will do to the new Trek shows from now on. They won’t last beyond a few seasons until they are just killed off. And if it’s a show with a large loyal fanbase, the best way to kill it is to sour the whole thing with bad writing and bad storytelling to just get everyone to stop watching it.

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          The first 2 seasons of Disco are worth it, in my opinion, since it segues to Strange New Worlds. I had no idea that Lower Decks and Strange New Worlds existed. Once I heard about them, I checked them out and enjoyed them a lot.

          Don’t forget The Orville. Spiritually more like Star Trek than Discovery for the most part.