• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    See, this sounds like you’re saying queer people are the cause of homophobia, which is exactly what my point was.

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        2 months ago

        I believe that was not your intention, but that is what makes it so problematic. When you suggest that most or all homophobes are queer, you’re suggesting that homophobia is an internal problem, not an external one, even if you don’t realize that’s what you’re doing. Because the inference to be made there is that if you really hate queer people, you can’t be cishet.

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          you’re suggesting that homophobia is an internal problem,

          I believe homophobia (and basically all other hate) is mostly an internal (mental) problem, you don’t?

          the inference to be made there is that if you really hate queer people, you can’t be cishet.

          Ah I get it now, I guess I disagree with that inference but I see how it follows. More honestly I would say that most people aren’t 100% straight/cishet and sexual fluidity is extremely common (though we’re only becoming aware of it now) so the inference would be correct and most people wouldn’t be homophobic.

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            2 months ago

            Internal as in only involving queer people.

            The point is it gives any cishet bigot an excuse to be homophobic because they aren’t queer so it’s okay. It’s not bigotry.

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                Again, this suggests that you cannot be cishet and bigoted against queer people. That the only people bigoted against queer people are themselves queer. Therefore anything someone who is cishet says about queer people no matter how offensive cannot be homophobic by virtue of having been said by a cishet person.

                That’s just basic extrapolation from such reasoning.