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  • As much as I have no obligation to agree with another person’s views, I also have no obligation to argue about them.

    There’s clearly views in this world that can be pretty much dismissed outright, if you disagree you’re free to go to a flat earther forum to debate them out of it.

    The only reason Musk wants to hide likes is because he agrees with a bunch of really shitty and messed up positions, and he wants to not be responsible for it.

    If you like a post saying “I believe that the jews did 9/11” I think it’s fair for someone to look at it and go “Hey that’s obviously fake, really dumb, and kinda hilarious that you’re this stupid.”







  • trashgirlfriend@lemmy.worldtoFuck AI@lemmy.worldAgree?
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    No, there just needs to be some sort of human involvement.

    Art is something humans do, computer algorithms cannot do art because they’re not people.

    Typing “big boobs anime girl pink hair rain low lighting trending on artstation” into a text box is not human involvement in art, and pretending it is is a slap in the face of every human being in existence who ever liked any art ever.


  • Because you say so? What makes you the great arbiter of what is and isnt art? You are literally gatekeeping by the very definiton of the word.

    I’m fairly sure I mentioned the definition I use for art before. Ai generated images can’t be art because they’re not made by a person, there’s no underlying thought or message, it’s just algorithmic slop.

    Same thing goes for a tree growing freely in the woods, there’s no intent behind it, the tree just grows the best it can to fulfil it’s need for sunlight and nutrients, as such it is not art.

    Both the tree and AI can create imagery that can be considered beautiful, but beauty != art.

    Modern music however is created by people, even if the message behind it is that “I feel so clean like a money machine.”

    Mud chocolate bit

    The point is that even if AI generated images are trash, they can still do harm to culture.

    So peoeple that do things like put a hole in a paint can and let it swing back and forth over a canvas? Is that still humans making art? What about mechanical things spirographs? is that still humans making art? What about digital art the relies heavily on computer tools (including tools that often use AI)? What about photographers? Or what about someone that uses generated AI aspects in their digital art? Your definition is reactionary gatekeeping bullshit. And there is no logical reasoning behind it.

    That is all people doing things, yeah.

    Okay thats entirely besides the point.

    I’m just saying this regarding the dEmOcRaTiSinG aRt cringe, are has been democratic for as long as people could make coherent vocalisations, you people just don’t want to put in any effort into it.

    And the Mona Lisa would have been easier to make on a Wacom tablet, but wouldnt be anywhere near the same quality as the original. So Digital art is dangerous too right?

    It’s not about how easy it is, it’s about it being easy and artistically worthless. It doesn’t matter if the sprites were scanned sculptures or crayon stickmen, it was art.

    You cannot make an argument against AI that cannot be logically applied to other art as well.

    If you willingly misinterpret the point, yeah.

    It’s not about it being easy, it’s that you cannot just take a bunch of art, and taking the fucking averages of it and hoping it to be anything but (at best) pretty images.


  • It doesn’t happen with the output of a generative model by itself, if you edit it afterwards then it can be art because someone did put at least something into it.

    Still though, the base in that case is completely meaningless and you’d have to change it massively for it to be anything worthwhile, just like a bonsai requires a lot of effort to be turned from a regular tree to art.