I’ll have you know my outdoor cat eats predominantly local wildlife
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No vegan should buy pets, that is a fact. Now adopting or having them otherwise? Still no.
This. Cats and dogs can’t help that they’re obligate carnivores. So the actual vegan thing to do is not have them.
Dogs are omnivores though.
So when villi are absorbing a chemical slurry into the blood stream they don’t actually ask the molecules where they came from. Even if they did it turns out that chemicals don’t have memory so they wouldn’t get an answer.
Bodies need nutrients, those nutrients can come from where ever. Including a fucking testtube if needed.
Now cats, and to a lesser extent dogs, don’t have a body fit for grinding up fibrous matter in order to extract nutrients from it. If you try to feed mr fluffypaws raw kale for instance they are likely not getting many of the nutrients therein because you need to crush the cells.
But humans, among others, long long ago invented crushing the everliving shit out of things. Alongside other processes we can extract what we need, filter out the rest, and mix the necessary components into pellets.
Indeed, if cats have kibble they’re eating many vegetables already. Often merely ground. Also plastic and ash, kibble is fucking nasty
You can have my cats when you pry them from my cold dead hands
Fascists like you really do love to imagine violent scenarios where you can both be the victim and the hero.
I was doing a humorous spin on the classic guns line. I won’t be clutching my cats when I die they wouldn’t like that but I don’t expect internet vegans to understand humor
Don’t you love nazi trolls coming onto vegan/leftist/queer/etc spaces and then going “look how dysgenic those people are.”
But yes, you’re a “comrade” alright.
What does dysgenic mean?
OK warden.
No one said anything about coming for your cats. Feed it and yourself a vegan diet.
By making factory farms more efficient your pets are fueling mass animal torture and death. Maybe don’t entrap animals in your home
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If my pets weren’t trapped in my home they would be out murdering birds and other small animals for sport. I’m doing the world a favor by keeping them contained.
The point is to not have pets in the first place.
Well, I’m not getting rid of them, so here we are I guess.
How about we don’t have you?
Same idea, yes. Prevention is very important.
As an antinatalist, gotta agree.
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Would the Shoah be more excusable were the remains of its victims to be reused?
Factory farms should be shut down.
I would rather every factory farm be shut down immediately and all animal agriculture stopped. Two wrongs don’t make a right, anyone supporting factory farming in any way is doing something morally and ethically abhorrent.
Cats should be fed a vegan diet by sanctuaries, humans can’t be trusted with them, most animals despite how much people claim to love their pets on line treat their animals like shit, like everything in their lives.
Cats are obligate carnivores…
… what, all the evidence is that you can feed them a vegan alternative diet and they are as healthy or more healthy. “obligate carnivore” means nothing in this context, they also don’t all live in the middle of the Anatolian desert either.
See, the thing is about unsustainable activities means they can’t be sustained. The way we produce meat for these “obligate carnivores” and yourself will collapse if you want it to or not, so its better to find the alternatives now then to stay stupid shit like “Cats are obligate carnivores…” with no information or substance to your claim.
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Genuine question: considering cats can be picky eaters, do you happen to know how anyone currently gets cats to eat a vegan alternative diet?
I know a few people actually. Benovo seems to be the most popular brand. The fact is most cat food is already 80% plant ingredients with some industrially processed meat products added in. This stuff is already extremely unhealthy for cats. I had cats before I went vegan who ate the highest quality cat food I could afford and that they would eat called “science diet” and they got diabetes and died on the younger side for cats. This is with what people think is appropriate now. I do think much more research needs to go into alternatives because no matter what we want unsustainable activities can’t be sustained so the cheap and subsidized meat calories will end and what we are currently doing doesn’t work either. I don’t really believe there is a difference on a chemical level if you match the nutritional needs with plant based chemicals or animal derived chemicals I don’t believe it makes some spiritual difference related to the obligate carnivore status of an animal.
Animals need nutrients. Their bodies don’t care where those nutrients came from. Every nutrient cats need except taurine can be sourced from plants, and taurine can be synthesized in a laboratory.
